Structuring the Roth Conversion
In a recent article, I briefly covered the topic of Recharacterization. The example that I gave was pretty simplistic – you converted an amount, and decided later to recharacterize that amount back to an IRA. What if it gets complicateder?
There are some steps you can take in your conversion that will help you to recharacterize later, if the occasion should arise. These steps to structure the conversion are by no means required, they’d fit into a “simplifying your life” category, more than anything – or what I have heard referred to as a CYA* activity.
But wait! Doesn’t the IRS treat all IRAs as one account? Hold on, there – before you get all dressed up and jump off a chair: You’re making the assumption that there is consistency in the rules… and consistency in the rules would be a huge departure from the IRS’ proud, nearly 150-year track record. Besides, if the rules were consistent and made sense, then what would guys like me write about?
In the case of recharacterizing funds converted to a Roth IRA, the IRS only considers the account you converted into. This is why it’s important to (at the very least) start with a fresh new account – because any recharacterization in an account that included prior conversions and/or contributions will likely dilute the effect of the recharacterization. At the very least, commingling conversion funds will really complicate things, and lead to some potentially uncomfortable moments during the audit.
The more you’ve chunked your account, the easier it will be to choose only those funds that have fallen in value to recharacterize. Otherwise the benefit is diluted by any increases on other holdings.
* Not really sure, but I think CYA in this sense stands for “Chunk Your Accounts”. You may have a different interpretation.
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Hi Jim,
I am currently a grad student who has a rollover IRA from a previous employer and am looking to take advantage of my very low tax rate for 2009 and roll over my IRA to my Roth IRA. I do expect my future tax rates to be much higher in the future. I don’t plan on taking the money out of the Roth until I retire, but I want to confirm that if I rollover the IRA this year in 2009, that the tax I pay will be based on my 2009 income level tax (which as a grad student is pretty low) and not on my tax rate from when I was employed and contributing to my 401k. I plan on paying the tax due from my savings account so I’ll keep the full amount in my IRA when I transfer it to a Roth IRA. My follow-up question is , how do I actually do the conversion. Is this something I can do through my brokerage account or do I simply close out my IRA, transfer it to my Roth IRA, and then fill out the appropriate tax form come tax season?
Much Thanks and great articles!
Conor
Hi, Conor -
On your first question regarding the tax on your conversion – the tax on a Roth conversion is based upon the year you enact the conversion. The exception is in 2010, when you can elect to have the entire conversion taxed at the 2010 rate or half at the 2011 rate and the other half at the 2012 rate. If you convert your IRA to a Roth in 2009, the tax on the conversion will be based on your income and the conversion amount in 2009.
Your second question about the mechanics of the conversion is pretty straightforward – open the Roth IRA account (either at your current IRA custodian or a new custodian, it’s your choice). Once the Roth account is established, put the paperwork in place to do a trustee-to-trustee transfer between the traditional IRA and the Roth IRA – making sure that it is clear to the custodian(s) that this transfer is a Roth conversion. This is necessary because the transaction will be reported as a distribution, and so it must be classified correctly. Then when you file your taxes, you’ll also need to fill out Form 8606 (Part II) to indicate the conversion. You probably want to get this going ASAP if you want it done in 2009 – especially if you’re going to a new custodian!
Hope this covers your questions! If you run into issues don’t hesitate to contact me.
jb
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